Does this make it too difficult for new pilots to get out into 0.0?
Yes, it probably does. We are going to look at this tomorrow to try and make this easier.

This has got to be one of the most idiotic things I have ever seen done to this game.

How about doing this instead.

Make New Eden Bigger, as in spread out the distances between the systems more to give it the appearance of actual space instead of the shoebox you think we live in?

Jump Fatigue? Is this another of Fozzie's stupid ideas?

Yes, my ship gets tired or my UNDYING CHARACTER GETS TIRED of using a jump drive.

Really? WTF.

Just nerf jump drives to 5LY max range and leave the fuel as is so it's even more expensive for smaller corporations and alliances to 'force project' while the really large alliances keep horfing up moon goo and don't care about the cost of fuel etc.

CCP, you need to remove your head from your anal canal.

you'll be bankrupt by christmas CCP

This thread is some of the best content generation to come from CCP :-)
This dev blog has increased the CFC smug to dangerous levels, our egos really didn't need this buff, but thanks!

It's 23:00 in iceland. I wonder how well CCP employees are sleeping.

And how many blue posts have we had in here today? Like two after the first page?

I sense free nullsec pockets popping up pretty soon.


Also WTB Avatar 1 bil

Hard to keep up. Need "Show all blueposts" button.

Says the goons who have been instructed to "quote"

"When confronting the enemy on the forums, many of whom will be thinking that the CFC will be made less secure by these changes somehow, make sure to adopt a posture of smug satisfaction about the inherent superiority"

this is the actual stuff the metagaming CFC lengths they go too.... its all pure BS

even if the CFC had to eat pure crap... they would put on a **** eating grin, and say it tastes great

you have to understand that they are all controlled and they drink the CFC/Goon coolaid everyday

npc systems in all regions

(Also, convo me in game if you want to start a small alliance and take some space!)

a system with less than 5 active players (docked or in space..avg for 24hrs) and no industry/military/strategic index of at least one should cost ONE THOUSAND TIMES the base for every CONCORD sov bill to be paid.

ACTIVE systems, on the other hand...... with lets say.. over 30 pilots and with ANY index at 4 or higher, would pay the base costs for all facilities.

playing eve for abt 5 years now... i think its a good time to look for something else .. may be take out that cute girl next door is a good idea..
good bye EVE

Man cannot count how many times similar statements have been made. May I please direct your attention to exhibit A:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eve_Online#Subscribers

Anyone who thinks these changes are being made without serious and rational forethought need to confirm that their IQ is above room temperature. Just like any other major change in EVE there will be growing pains, and iterations. No amount of QQ or subscription threats is going to change that. Instead, consider having a little faith that CCP has the health of the game and our best interests at heart. If it doesn't work out they'll fix it. If they really do make a mistake so terrible as to cause that graph to go down, then you can say "I told you so" afterward and rub it in all you want. Show some faith and have a mature conversation about the problem.

P.S. The tiny dip in that graph was Incarna. If you know anything about Incarna you know much people hated it. People still came back.

Just putting it out there:

Dreads and other assorted jump-capable ships without ship maintenance array should get a small SMA for storage of a frigate sized vessel.

Imagine you make some jumps and end up with a couple hours of cooldown timer ... sitting in some station in the middle of nullsec. It would be handy to have a ship (say a ceptor) to get somewhere else instead of just logging off.

Whats even funnier is the big alliances can already turn out hundreds of capitals a month, does CCP not think that the big blocks haven't already identified several strategic systems to store caps in and use pod express / high sec to access said caps.

-- no one wants to a own a 0.0 system that has two belts in it and 3 moons unless the moon happens to be the "right" moon

Limiting the amount of SOV that can be held by a corp based on activity would only hurt the big SOV alliances not the small corps/alliances trying to break into SOV.

So, just like a tax payer is 'entitled' to functioning civil services, that address their actual needs; many feel that CCP/EVE Online have reached a point of maturity as an MMORPG that makes it incumbent on them to act as proper stewards of *our* game. And iterating through a CSM 'Advisory and Consent' mechanism that they themselves established - rather than OP-Dev-Crush-It-With-A-Viking-Hammer development style.

So, earlier this year I had to abandon my business plan to bring minerals to 0.0 from HiSec via compression through various modules that were then recycled. I had added accounts to have an alt corp in hisec, secured a POS in hisec, populated it with the needed POS modules, secured the BPO's, researched the ME/PE for them to my liking, trained up JF pilots, added accounts and trained up my cyno chain crew, scoured the markets to get the best prices I could for minerals and freightered my purchases to the POS... CCP nerfed the compression business.

So, I adapt to now just compress raw ore at the POS (so I have to go back and start buying raw ore and ship that bulky crap) and start to ship those compressed blocks to 0.0 (never mind the multiple Billions of ISK worth of minerals I have stockpiled for the previous business plan that CCP nerfed for me) and now my cyno chain is null and void? I can not run multiple accounts of JF to haul what I need to haul in the time frame I have to haul it?

Don't tell me to work with others, this WAS my Eve and I played it the way I wanted to, not the way you or anyone else say I should play it. SANDBOX? Bull ****!!


I am done. I started EVEOnline in March of 2009.


Six accounts unsubscribed today, effective between November 16 - 17 depending which account.

Pulling POS and modules down, parking them in station.



No, the stuff is just going to rot in station, ya can't have it.